Comments on: AMD R9 290X Review & Benchmarks: The New GPU King?

By: Fiberton

Fiberton — Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:31:00 +0000

AMD never paid EA. They already came out and said this never happend. On Twitter the Frostbite developer said that once BF4 mantle is finished all other frostbite games will be able to use mantle. He said over 15 titles.

By: Fiberton

Fiberton — Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:28:00 +0000

Reason many games ran so well with Nvidia cards is because of Nvapi. BF3 uses it for Nvidia cards but I can all but assume that support is no longer there for BF4 as EA/DICE has decided AMD is what they rather be associated with. I think the competition is great. Nvidia is in a tight spot as they are just a graphics company over all. They already lost 79 cents per share since 290X release. That is about 450M dollar market cap loss. Yikes.

By: Fiberton

Fiberton — Tue, 29 Oct 2013 01:24:00 +0000

AMD will be switching to 20nm sometime in 2014 as was said on their last earnings call.

By: Serpent of Darkness

Serpent of Darkness — Tue, 29 Oct 2013 00:16:00 +0000

PC Games are going to be biased to each brand. A lot of D3D9 games will be optimized for NVidia. You can see this in the “old” COD games, Batman Games, Planetside 2, etc… Especially the ones coded and rendered with NVidia Graphic Cards. NVidia does pretty well in D3D11, but they have no hardware support for D3D11.1. It’s only software support. So their performance is kind of sucking in BF3 for NVidia, and it will suck a lot more in BF4 without Mantle. This is do to the Kepler Architecture. Probably won’t see full support for D3D11.1, and zero D3D11.2 support until Maxwell. GCN is more optimized for D3D11, 11.1, 11.2, Directcompute, and OpenGL. So it’s easy to spot which games will be better with which Graphic Card Brand. Though, increasing the amount of Cuda Core or Streaming Processor count can overcome any API Optimization hurdles. This can be seen in the recent Bioshock title (AMD Optimized) where NVidia is still pulling a few more frames than AMD. NVidia has never been able to top AMD on Tomb Raider because it’s optimized for D3D and Directcompute. A lot of people are predicting BF4 will be heavily favored by AMD Graphic Cards… I suspect at minimum settings, you can play the game on D3D11.0, but at max settings, you can use the D3D11.1 API.

By: Alio

Alio — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 20:54:00 +0000

What I meant with “pure performance” was how well it would perform in games, generally. No need to talk about future architectures bro!
P.S: My bad, I should have been more specific… to conclude, it’s an amazing value card, but no the king of “FPS” (trying to get it right for ya!)

By: Serpent of Darkness

Serpent of Darkness — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:11:00 +0000

On another note, GTX Titan and 780, on stock settings, is under the 5.0 GFlop line. 690 easily flies over this benchmark because it’s a dual GPU setup…

By: Serpent of Darkness

Serpent of Darkness — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 08:08:00 +0000

You won’t find an AMD Solution with 1.8x the Streaming Processors to match the GTX Titan. How ever you define your belief in the words “pure performance.” Pure Performance could be looked at as a sum of different elements of a graphic card. Most importantly, I think it’s the amount of GFlops the cards produce, but this matters less with PC Games. It matters more with OpenGL and OpenCL… This ideology of pure performance for a single graphic card could be seen, or it could happen for Tenerifle in 2014 if AMD follows through with that, but who knows for sure, in a “single graphic-card setup.” Originally, it’s going to be the upcoming contender for Maxwell on a 22nm node. It was suppose to have 2x the amount of streaming processors on a single die from the Tahiti XL chip. So looking at 2048×2, but in truth, it could be 2816 streaming processors x 2 on a single die. In addition, 16 additional streaming processors in Series computing unlike the 2816 in parallel computing… If Hawai’i XT is over the 5.63 Gflop line, Tenerifle could be 5.5 to almost 6.0 GFlops on stock. My calculations say 11.26 GFlops, but that seems far fetched. 2048 x2 would push up to 7.37 GFlops…

By: Serpent of Darkness

Serpent of Darkness — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 07:54:00 +0000

It’s going to beat the GTX Titan in BF4 without a doubt. Have you seen the BF3 benchmarks on it’s Quiet and Uber Mode.

By: Serpent of Darkness

Serpent of Darkness — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 07:46:00 +0000

That’s true, but Evga doesn’t sell AMD. MSI and Asus air-cooling solutions are top notch, but still, they have limitations on the air cooling side, and water does a lot better at cooling your investments. I have had 2 6990s in CrossfireX at full load, stay under 50 deg C at 1060 MHz core, and 5500 Mhz Mem. I will agree with that the non-reference models with the better air cooling solutions do a better job than the stock solution on the AMD cards, but it isn’t more efficient than water-cooling. In this scenario, the amount of money you invest to it is proportionate to the performance in some way. If money invested goes up, performance goes up. Performance, in this case, is cooling. I wouldn’t consider Di-hydragon Oxide–cooling as hardcore. It’s more like the best method there is. Unless you start using other methods like a cold chiller, or LN2, or anti-freeze with two radiators in a cooler filled with ice, water-cooling is the less complicated, but just as OP way to approach it… Going with a Cold Chiller or anything that extreme requires you to worry about condensation…

By: Alio

Alio — Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:02:00 +0000

Read again! It’s important, disconsidering anything about price, for a company to have the best product in it’s category. Price is important? Of course it is!! But as angry as I am with Nvidia having the Titan at $1000, it won’t change the fact that it is the best card. I’m talking about the performance race, so when talking about that, please, don’t even mention price! Its not the subject!!