Will AMD Release its 8000 Series Cards in 2013?

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Updated: February 17, 2013
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Last week there were many stories floating around about how AMD was going to just chill-out and let the 7 series of cards just run their course throughout 2013 without any real refreshes along the way. Well it seems like those stories were just a bit premature, as AMD has now clarified the situation and it is a bit different than what everyone was thinking.

So lets talk code names for a second. Do the words Solar System or Sea Islands mean anything more than just words used in science class or geography? Well this time they refer to a couple of the proposed refreshes for the AMD line up. Sea Islands, which varies slightly on the Radeon 7000 series parts that you have grown to embrace is a new line that will fall into the 8000-Series of GPUs and will be a refresh that features architecture which is based heavily in the Southern Islands chipset used in the well selling HD 7970 series of cards.

Solar System will be the nomenclature AMD has chosen for the sub-category Sea Islands products that are directly related to the mobile segment and the 8000M. What really gets confusing is that some 8000-Series parts are already shipping in the OEM desktop/laptop market that use exactly the same HD 7000 GPU specs that creates a confusion in the market. The new Radeon 8000 is made up of some rebrands and at least a couple of new chips seen thus far. The two new GPUs, Mars and Oland which are named the HD 8650 and the HD 8670, are already being sold with some systems and can be found for purchase if you do enough looking under rocks.

Unfortunately for the channel and DIY market there is absolutely zero availability, which is really a bit strange. The big disappointment however comes with the news attached that most of Sea Island’s focus will be in the mobile and notebook market and that the only light at the end of the tunnel is in the channel market where AMD promises good things later in 2013. You can also expect AMD to keep on trucking with the 7900-Series being AMD’s flagship GPU chipset and not much change to actually happen in that arena. When AMD was asked why this was happening, their VP of channel sales Roy Taylor had this to say: “7000 series parts are continuing to gain momentum in the market and sales are increasing so as a company focused on making money a new chipset architecture is premature at this time point.”

So what is AMD’s big plan? Well for one thing they really want to improve their relations with game developers and focus on better driver support in an attempt to better perfect the entire way AMD focuses on doing business. These aspects have not been the previous focus of the company as prior to the changes we are seeing now being implemented, AMD mainly focused on developing the fastest GPU chipsets and not so much on relations. The thing that concerns me is that NVIDIA, always a great white shark lurking in the deep waters may already have another refresh that may make AMD’s changes a day late and a dollar short depending on how the market goes. Although nothing was specified, AMD has said that by the end of 2013 we will see a new stack of cards, but what they exactly are going to be is still a mystery that we will just have to wait and see what happens. For you AMD fans how does this news make you feel? Do you think this is a good move for AMD or a mistake that will cost them down the road?  I appreciate your time in reading this and really want to hear how you feel as an AMD fan about this news.

Via: PCPer

  • Cameron Doyle

    I think this is a mistake. They’re already behind in architecture/efficiency, on both cpu’s and gpu’s. And they forgot about the market of people who always want bigger, better, faster, stronger, MORE MIGHTY stuff.

    • http://www.facebook.com/JDB4LFE Jeremy Bourgeois

      you forget that amd’s graphics cards are performing better than nvidia’s at the moment don’t you? lmao

      • Cameron Doyle

        But.. they don’t. I have a 6870 and gtx 580 computer. At least in the benchmarks of all my games, Nvidia 6xx series perform better than AMD 7xxx. I also use Adobe programs.. which favor Nvidia.

        You sound like a fanboy eager to argue, I won’t be replying again.

        • Jonas

          First you say you have a HD 6870 and a gtx 580 and then best on the way these cards behave you say that Nvidia 600 performs better on any level than HD 8000. Not just that but you call the guy for whom you wrote your comment a fanboy. Your comment it’s a huge fail my friend.
          The guy is right actually.

          • Cameron Doyle

            You can’t read.. can you. Please fix your reading comprehension.

          • Superkid1035

            Look-7950>670
            7970>680
            7990>690
            And lm Sure the 8series is going to out
            perform the gtx titan at Some point . After that amd will have best single and dual graphics card

          • Mini

            we are on AMD 7000 and Nvidia 600 series.
            not AMD 6000 and Nvidia 500 series. Why are you using older gen graphics cards to make assumption for present and future gen ones?

            Like what’s your point? How’s AMD behind? Stop arguing.

          • Cameron Doyle

            “Stop arguing.” Replying to an over 1 month old comment.
            Sums up your intelligence.

    • Slim Tech

      Eeeh…what’s your point? AMD does have the best gaming GPU in the market (overal). They have “bigger” GPUs than Nvidia – Asus AMD Radeon Direct CU cards need two or two and a half slots, “better” – AMD GPUs need less power to run (overal), “faster” – not always, “stronger” – you can achieve better OC with AMD, “MORE MIGHTY stuff” – Asus ARES II baby!

      • Cameron Doyle

        ASUS makes 3 slot cards.. because most people only buy 1 card. Last I checked, the 680 pulls 65w less than a 7970.
        And for the price of the ARES 2, I could get 2 used 690s. But its a collectors card. Also.. the Ares 2 is made by ASUS. Not AMD.

        Holy **** so many trolls replying to my comment.

        • http://www.facebook.com/varunpriolkar Varun Priolkar

          amd has the best budget lineup in gpus imo. they need to fix their crap in cpus though. i dont have problems on linux with my fx 8150 but on windows, boy does that struggle.
          and yeah amd needs to get newer architecture in the market asap. nvidia’s fan control drivers are a piece of sh*t. they burnt up my card. so i had no choice but amd :(

    • Oxygoblin

      First thing I think of: Fan Boy.

  • erodz1892

    Rather have them working on driver support. After all the fasted card is nothing without proper driver optimization. Still have my 7970 but gave it to my daughter build got myself dual 670 because of game support.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002914343914 Daniel Williams

    cant wait then!!!

  • Lasher32

    I see this as kind of a good thing. AMD has been making some good cards, but support for those has been a bit lacking lately. So focusing on getting the support for the already available, and soon to be coming hardware, will allow their profits to increase, as more people will be willing to use AMD hardware. However the caveat to that, as Mr. Doyle already pointed out, the DIY and enthusiast market will be a little put out by the delay. And NVIDIA will jump on this opportunity to put more pressure on AMD.

    The end of 2013 new cards deal sounds like they are angling for the Q4/Christmas timeframe to release the new cards. Too late? We’ll have to see.

  • http://www.facebook.com/arcadyt Arcady Trembovler

    If AMD employees will want to bring some food home at the end of the day I guess they don’t really have a choice… The competition from nvidia is really serious, and AMD should up their game dramatically instead of bringing out a watercooled dual-GPU that costs like 3 cards of 7970…
    I’m not saying ARES is a bad choice, AMD fans will love it doesn’t matter what, however I bet the guys who will actually buy it (the guys with the deep pockets) would prefer nvidia’s 690 because of its SIMPLICITY (no fancy-pants watercooling because it stays pretty cool all the freaking time!, and CUDA, and on-board PhysX).
    Think about it…

    • Korki

      ASUS made the Ares 2…

  • Paul

    A few years back I never thought that I could ever change from nvidia to amd. When i started building my latest pc I searched through all graphic cards available at that time to see what graphic card to put in my system. Although nvidia had pretty good cards, amd’s cards looked better and performed better too. I ended up buying the dual gpu XFX HD5970 because compared to nvidia cards its performance was amazing. I still have it installed to this day and it still handles demanding games without breaking a sweat. My point is that at that time I looked as AMD being the company which was pushing the line of what you can achieve with graphics nowadays. AMD chose to put all their effort into producing cards which their main goal was to destroy their competition. I honestly think they shouldn’t do such a thing, they are drifting away from being the only company which focused solely on producing fast graphic cards. Nvidia, although producing really good cards aren’t really pushing the line when it comes to specs.The thing is that if AMD chose this path they are drifting into what nvidia has become.

  • DevesC

    I’ve always prefered AMD cards as they have superior multi-monitor support. Also some forms of AutoCAD programs perform better on AMD cards. All that said, I have not owned a laptop with AMD mobility graphics, but talking to people who do, it seems inferior to Nvidia’s. So to me it makes sense that they are focusing on improving their mobile lineup, then pushing the boundaries of their power lineup. Just my opinion though.

  • http://twitter.com/iNSOMNATECH David Rouser

    Just because Amd is not releasing a new card every month does not mean there not hard at work developing and making the next best cards behind the scenes.

  • Ukee Instapov

    So … the rumors were mostly correct, We aren’t going to see a refresh of the AMD Desktop GPUs until late 2013/early 2014?

    AMD may be behind on efficiency compared to NVidia, but they are DEFINITELY not behind on architecture. I would only recommend a NVidia GPU to someone who is only going to game, or exclusively uses Adobe products. OpenCL ++ AMD GCN is vastly superior to NVidia CUDA ++ Kepler.

    AMD partnering up with game studios and software developers will help fill some of the driver issues that they are having. I think we have been seeing the fruits of this effort with the massive performance increase with the latest Catalyst updates which helped the 7970 retake the performance crown from the 680. Perhaps this will fix the problems which stop so many people from buying AMD; their drivers!

    Lets not forget that some of these delays may be due to TSMC running out of 28nm capacity. They are going to be building chips for apple soon, so they may have to push certain customers until they have the demand under control. So this issue may affect both AMD and NVidia!!

  • Ashley hearst

    for me im happy there taking a brake with the cards. as i have a sapphire 7950 3gb graphics card i really like this card and cant help upgrading when they bring a new 1 out which i dont see why as this 7950 is doing everything and more. the only problem im having is with there drivers which is why im happy for the stop on new cards. as they have already improved alot with the drivers on my card but need more work. which if they stop bringing more cards out means there should be more time on fixing problems and make it a even better card aswell as other cards. i think its a good move but i also think alot of people are gonna be annoyed as im sure nvidia would take advantage of this. but the asus ares II surely you aint gonna need more power than that for a while anyway either way im happy :) with amd and plan on staying with them. one thing i would like them to do is find a better way to uninstall the amd catalyst drivers as when something gos wrong it can be a real pain in the bottom

  • HardwareJunkyJoe

    AMD already has great cards with the 7000 series. If they can get game developers to release more optimized games for the AMD GPU architecture, and figure out a way to give better driver support, then they will be able to give Nvidia a run for their money so to speak. i am disappointed that AMD pushed back the release of the 8000 series, but as long as they can achieve what they are trying to do, then it will be worth it.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1178934151 Babatunde Omodayo

    I am a proud owner of the AMD Radeon HD 7870 which to me is a great card. AMD do well graphically and this break is needed! I don’t see why we should complain. Come on people, haven’t you heard of surprises? Lets wait and see what AMD have to offer us and whether the wait will warrant the significant change they plan on making.

  • Aiknx

    i see rage and staff … titan is beast but i think while they making new and new stuff they could do more by improving old ones sometimes …. smart ppl will understand what i wanted to say …. and as for cpus am3+ should be gone long time ago they should work more … but all this is market

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  • 1234

    I think AMD might have a plan..it’s not a mistake.. maybe they are taking more time to get a better performing gpu than 7990 so that it gives Nvidia a stronger competition… maybe amd wanna have a strong lead or somehting..

  • http://twitter.com/Dwarfahkiins Dan

    Well if they arent gonna release the 8000 series Radeon cards on 2013 but they might release a 7790 which I fear may just be an overclocked 7770

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  • Oguz

    Hi I’m an intel nvidia guy and I’m planing to buy a new system at Q4 2013. I’m really bored to pay to much money for intel nvidia and I think this time I’ll go with amd. What are you guys suggest. Should I wait for amd’s new line cpu’s and gpu’s or go with current intel nvidia parts?